Where do you stand on the 2nd Amendment
I was asked to speak at a 2nd Amendment rights rally at the Utah Capitol February 8, 2020.
In the past I have been endorsed by the NRA-Political Victory Fund. I am a strong supporter of our right to protect ourselves.
I quoted this section from our Utah State Constitution:
Article I, Section 6. [Right to bear arms.] The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the Legislature from defining the lawful use of arms.
Notice the Legislature can define the lawful use of arms, but it can't take away the right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense. I spoke opposing the "Red Flag" laws being proposed.
I have strongly condemned the Salt Lake County Mayor's decision for an “operational change” to close the gun show background check "loopholes" at gun shows at county facilities.
I am running to replace the Republican incumbent who voted to support the county mayor, when the county council voted 5 vs 4 on February 11, 2020, a few days after the rally.
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/2/17/21136549/utah-gun-control-background-checks-gun-shows-salt-lake-county
I wrote this:
https://fredcox4utah.blogspot.com/2020/04/we-need-to-reverse-salt-lake-county.html
If you are a defender of property rights, then why did you publicly oppose and speak against the Olympia Hills Project before the Salt Lake County Council vote?
A good explanation is at:
https://fredcox4utah.blogspot.com/2020/02/olympia-hills-project-too-fast-or-is.html
I proposed a compromise which was not voted on. I also believe it was wrong for the county to vote on this when the decision should have been up to a city annexing the property.
Where are you re: Government closing private businesses regarding the pandemic?
https://fredcox4utah.blogspot.com/2020/05/i-was-asked-to-speak-for-few-minutes-at.html
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Showing posts with label Utah Gun Laws. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Utah Gun Laws. Show all posts
Sunday, May 24, 2020
Monday, April 7, 2014
In support of Gun Rights
Utah generally has good gun laws. We do need to look at why someone living on campus at BYU can't have a gun in their apartment to defend themselves. Why can someone with a CFP carry a gun on to a UTA bus or train, but the driver can't?
Utah Constitution Article I, Section 6. [Right to bear arms.]
"The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the Legislature from defining the lawful use of arms. "
The Legislature has limited it so there is no "open carry" inside the property of a K-12 public school or college campus, without a CFP, so to carry a gun on to a public K-12 school or college campus, you need a concealed fire arms permit. The permit allows an individual to carry a firearm into public schools and college campuses. The 1000 foot buffer was dropped in 2011.
There is no reason the principal, custodians, or teachers can't obtain a concealed carry permit and carry a gun to protect themselves or their students.
Open carry doesn't allow a bullet in the chamber. If you want to carry a loaded gun with a bullet in the chamber, you need a concealed firearms permit.
You can not conceal carry without a permit. There are exceptions re: automobiles, backpacks, etc.
Allowing it so someone without a concealed firearm permit, CFP, can open carry, may be the only reason the Utah Legislature can require a CFP for someone hiding that they are carrying a firearm.
So unless you are planning on a State Constitutional Amendment, that person with the .45 colt strapped to their waist is going to stay, and I will fight support that right.
I supported in 2011 and 2012 a law to protect those that Open Carry from charges of Disorderly Conduct. I spoke on the floor of the house to promote passage of the bill, quoting the Utah Constitution as to why the bill should pass, and mentioning that I knew one of those killed at Trolley Square. I voted against weakening the bill, and voted for passage, hoping there would be a way to make the bill better, or that it would improve what we have now.
In 2014, a bill finally passed and was signed by the Governor.
http://le.utah.gov/~2014/bills/static/HB0276.html
Many people don't want to get rid of the CFP
requirement.
The US Constitution Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
In 2012, I asked Legislative Research to verify that the current Utah Concealed Firearm Permit is constitutional under both the US and the Utah Constitution. They came back and said our CFP and Utah Constitution were OK, based on the last couple of SCOTUS rulings.
Utah is an open carry state, with very few exceptions. One is if you are going to hide that you are carrying a gun you need a background check. Many people I have spoken with, and there are exceptions, like our Utah concealed carry permit system. As someone torn on the issue, I included a question about constitutional carry on the questionnaire I sent out the beginning of the 2012 session. Most residents in my area responded that they like the concealed carry permit for those that want to conceal that they are carrying.
If the residents in my area want Utah laws not to require a CFP for those that want to conceal that they are carrying, I will then support it.
Utah Constitution Article I, Section 6. [Right to bear arms.]
"The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the Legislature from defining the lawful use of arms. "
The Legislature has limited it so there is no "open carry" inside the property of a K-12 public school or college campus, without a CFP, so to carry a gun on to a public K-12 school or college campus, you need a concealed fire arms permit. The permit allows an individual to carry a firearm into public schools and college campuses. The 1000 foot buffer was dropped in 2011.
There is no reason the principal, custodians, or teachers can't obtain a concealed carry permit and carry a gun to protect themselves or their students.
Open carry doesn't allow a bullet in the chamber. If you want to carry a loaded gun with a bullet in the chamber, you need a concealed firearms permit.
You can not conceal carry without a permit. There are exceptions re: automobiles, backpacks, etc.
Allowing it so someone without a concealed firearm permit, CFP, can open carry, may be the only reason the Utah Legislature can require a CFP for someone hiding that they are carrying a firearm.
So unless you are planning on a State Constitutional Amendment, that person with the .45 colt strapped to their waist is going to stay, and I will fight support that right.
I supported in 2011 and 2012 a law to protect those that Open Carry from charges of Disorderly Conduct. I spoke on the floor of the house to promote passage of the bill, quoting the Utah Constitution as to why the bill should pass, and mentioning that I knew one of those killed at Trolley Square. I voted against weakening the bill, and voted for passage, hoping there would be a way to make the bill better, or that it would improve what we have now.
In 2014, a bill finally passed and was signed by the Governor.
http://le.utah.gov/~2014/bills/static/HB0276.html
The US Constitution Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
In 2012, I asked Legislative Research to verify that the current Utah Concealed Firearm Permit is constitutional under both the US and the Utah Constitution. They came back and said our CFP and Utah Constitution were OK, based on the last couple of SCOTUS rulings.
Utah is an open carry state, with very few exceptions. One is if you are going to hide that you are carrying a gun you need a background check. Many people I have spoken with, and there are exceptions, like our Utah concealed carry permit system. As someone torn on the issue, I included a question about constitutional carry on the questionnaire I sent out the beginning of the 2012 session. Most residents in my area responded that they like the concealed carry permit for those that want to conceal that they are carrying.
If the residents in my area want Utah laws not to require a CFP for those that want to conceal that they are carrying, I will then support it.
Monday, December 17, 2012
Utah has good gun laws
Utah has good gun laws
Utah Constitution Article I, Section 6. [Right to bear arms.]
"The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the Legislature from defining the lawful use of arms. "
The Legislature has limited it so there is no "open carry" inside the property of a K-12 public school or college campus, without a CFP, so to carry a gun on to a public K-12 school or college campus, you need a concealed fire arms permit. The permit allows an individual to carry a firearm into public schools and college campuses.
There is no reason the principal, custodians, or teachers can't obtain a concealed carry permit and carry a gun to protect themselves or their students.
Open carry doesn't allow a bullet in the chamber. If you want to carry a loaded gun with a bullet in the chamber, you need a concealed firearms permit.
You can not conceal carry without a permit.
See:
http://le.utah.gov/code/TITLE76/htm/76_10_050505.htm
Allowing it so someone without a concealed firearm permit, CFP, can open carry, may be the only reason the Utah Legislature can require a CFP for someone hiding that they are carrying a firearm.
Many people don't want to get rid of the CFP requirement.
Now Rep. Paul Ray's bill, 2013 HB 268 , Disorderly Conduct Amendments, might make it so the person with the 223 rifle strapped to their back at JC Penney might get in trouble with the law, but that same bill is going to make sure his Glock strapped to his waist is perfectly fine, as long as he isn't doing something scary with it. Without the CFP the gun can't have a bullet in the chamber, but that doesn't take too long to load in most cases.
So unless you are planning on a State Constitutional Amendment, that person with the 45 colt. strapped to their waist is going to stay. You should be grateful that a CFP is required, unless the principal gives permission, to carry a gun on to a public K-12 school. The good news is that the janitor, teacher, parent, or even the principal could be packing using a CFP. Hopefully the next time some person off their meds gets ready to shoot at a crowd, they are dropped on the spot by someone else, whether or not they have a CFP or just a glock strapped to their waist.
Remember to change the state constitution you would need 2/3 of the legislature, many of who have CFP. Some of whom would love to take things a step further and get rid of the requirement of a CFP to conceal carry.
Modifying our state constitution on firearms may not be an option as we do have a 2nd amendment for the US Constitution. While some would love to change that, that isn't going to happen .
Instead of being freaked out about the guns, why don't you take a NRA safety course. You don't have to own a gun. The NRA does a great job of teaching gun safety to scout leaders and others that teach children how to safely handle guns.
Guns are tools. Most people don't seem to mind a hammer strapped to the waist of a contractor.
For my thoughts on Constitutional Carry, see:
http://fredcox4utah.blogspot.com/2012/07/constitutional-carry-thoughts.html
Utah Constitution Article I, Section 6. [Right to bear arms.]
"The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the Legislature from defining the lawful use of arms. "
The Legislature has limited it so there is no "open carry" inside the property of a K-12 public school or college campus, without a CFP, so to carry a gun on to a public K-12 school or college campus, you need a concealed fire arms permit. The permit allows an individual to carry a firearm into public schools and college campuses.
There is no reason the principal, custodians, or teachers can't obtain a concealed carry permit and carry a gun to protect themselves or their students.
Open carry doesn't allow a bullet in the chamber. If you want to carry a loaded gun with a bullet in the chamber, you need a concealed firearms permit.
You can not conceal carry without a permit.
See:
http://le.utah.gov/code/TITLE76/htm/76_10_050505.htm
Additional comments based on this article:
Allowing it so someone without a concealed firearm permit, CFP, can open carry, may be the only reason the Utah Legislature can require a CFP for someone hiding that they are carrying a firearm.
Many people don't want to get rid of the CFP requirement.
Now Rep. Paul Ray's bill, 2013 HB 268 , Disorderly Conduct Amendments, might make it so the person with the 223 rifle strapped to their back at JC Penney might get in trouble with the law, but that same bill is going to make sure his Glock strapped to his waist is perfectly fine, as long as he isn't doing something scary with it. Without the CFP the gun can't have a bullet in the chamber, but that doesn't take too long to load in most cases.
So unless you are planning on a State Constitutional Amendment, that person with the 45 colt. strapped to their waist is going to stay. You should be grateful that a CFP is required, unless the principal gives permission, to carry a gun on to a public K-12 school. The good news is that the janitor, teacher, parent, or even the principal could be packing using a CFP. Hopefully the next time some person off their meds gets ready to shoot at a crowd, they are dropped on the spot by someone else, whether or not they have a CFP or just a glock strapped to their waist.
Remember to change the state constitution you would need 2/3 of the legislature, many of who have CFP. Some of whom would love to take things a step further and get rid of the requirement of a CFP to conceal carry.
Modifying our state constitution on firearms may not be an option as we do have a 2nd amendment for the US Constitution. While some would love to change that, that isn't going to happen .
Instead of being freaked out about the guns, why don't you take a NRA safety course. You don't have to own a gun. The NRA does a great job of teaching gun safety to scout leaders and others that teach children how to safely handle guns.
Guns are tools. Most people don't seem to mind a hammer strapped to the waist of a contractor.
For my thoughts on Constitutional Carry, see:
http://fredcox4utah.blogspot.com/2012/07/constitutional-carry-thoughts.html
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