Showing posts with label Utah Redistricting. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Utah Redistricting. Show all posts

Wednesday, October 4, 2017

Why a Redistricting Commission may make things worse

Why a Redistricting Commission may make things worse

For our transportation organization, UTA, an un-elected board didn’t work as well as most would have liked. Do we want another un-elected commission?

Both in 2016 and 2017, Rep. M. Nelson proposed rules (passed the House but not the Senate, yet) that would help solve the problem that happened the last time the Utah Legislature passed new redistricting maps. In 2011, the legislative redistricting committee had really good rules and goals, but then both political parties threatened law suits and many of the ideals were abandoned. If we could just get one or two specific Republican State Senators to go along, the new proposed rules would likely pass. Those rules, and having the elected legislature create the maps, would work much better than having an "independent" un-elected redistricting commission where the one independent person gets to make the final decision.  

Even though I was not on the redistricting committee last time, I drew maps for the 2011 redistricting bills and some were officially voted on. My Congressional "Hat and Three Stripes Map" was the most favored by the committee, prior to the political parties’ involvement. I even had a similar map Senate Sponsored by Sen. Ben McAdams, the only bi-partisan Congressional District Map. (No, it didn't pass).

The maps I drew to start with had one goal in mind: to keep the districts as close to city and county lines as possible, using major roads or other obvious boundaries such as rivers, etc. I had the Congressional District divided with very few county or city boundaries crossed. My state political party chair threatened to sue the state if that map was adopted. I tried to make it fair. I wasn't trying to favor one party over the other, but didn't use any political party stats to create it. I had the Congressional District maps balanced to one person. 

If the rules that the committee was trying to follow were placed as legislative rules, it would have avoided the threats of lawsuits for following them. Outside groups created state house, state senate and state school board maps down to just a few people, while to keep the county and city boundaries as close as possible, the state house and state senate districts needed a larger difference between districts, perhaps 2% to 3%. When these other groups started doing that, we followed and we started losing district boundaries that made sense. Creating districts with populations this close actually made things worse. This is another reason for the rules being adopted differently.

At least for the Utah House map, only one State Representative voted against the final map. It initially passed 74 to 1. However, she won in 2012 and I lost. The map wasn't perfect, and I knew it would be tougher to win, but I voted for it because my area made more sense than other options, and we were creating new districts even though several State House Members would end up running against each other. We even changed the house district numbers for these combined districts so no one would have an advantage.

Remember many years ago, Rep. Merrill Nelson lost because he wanted fair redistricting boundaries more than getting elected. I repeated that in 2012. If the State House boundaries were so bad, why did all but one democrat in the House vote for that map?

With additional legislative rules in place prior to redistricting in 2021, it will be better to have an elected body create the maps rather than an appointed body that has no accountability. Didn’t learn anything from UTA?

Vote No on a Redistricting Commission.

Fred C. Cox, former member of the Utah State House of Representatives, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2016. West Valley City, Utah
 
https://le.utah.gov/~2016/bills/static/HJR005.html

https://le.utah.gov/~2017/bills/static/HJR001.html



Monday, November 5, 2012

The 4th District Utah Congressional Map and Fox 13

I am very disappointed in the lack of accuracy of the story. Also very disappointed that Fox 13 held on to the information for weeks to release it the night before the election.  

http://fox13now.com/2012/11/05/both-parties-throw-money-into-4th-district-race/

"Cox spent nearly a year drawing maps. Cox’s map kept urban areas like Salt Lake County’s whole, but the Utah Legislature axed it."

The map of mine that was one of the top 6 maps voted on by the committee was called a hat and 3 stripes, it tried to keep the counties and cities together. There is no way to have a Salt Lake County and at least one other county whole. My map divided it [Salt Lake County] in 4. The map can be found at:

 
http://www.redistrictutah.com/maps/u-s-congressional-6-finalists/congress-rep-cox-%E2%80%9Cplan-e%E2%80%9D-hat-and-3-stripes

The map that passed [and became law] divided SLCo in only 3 and managed to keep almost all of Salt Lake City in one piece, something my map didn't do. I had the city divided [at]about I-15.

The [Grama] documents are available if the remaining cost is paid.  Fox 13 can't claim otherwise when the record they show says that their request for the documents without paying for the cost was denied. It doesn't say the documents can't or won't be released.

The legislature didn't redistrict Rep. Matheson out of the 2nd district. He lives in the current 2nd and new 2nd district. The new 2nd district and 4th district are reportedly both as republican as his current district. He said so himself last October. He chose to run in the 4th district because he resides in Utah and the US constitution doesn't say he has to run in his own district. Unless he moves, he won't be able to vote for himself this fall.

Wednesday, December 28, 2011

KSL and Deseret New please get the right Utah 2012 Election Congressional Map

update: See http://elections.utah.gov/map/district-maps 

I have called KSL several times, including last night, and yet KSL still continues to show incorrect 2012 Election Utah Congressional maps and especially points out wrong 4th district graphics and descriptions.
Deseret News hasn't been much better, and even refused to post my recent comment pointing out the bad map or description.
Does KSL/Deseret News not have links or graphics that are correct?
See:
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=18625498
I would think your reporters would be embarrassed to have incorrect graphics shown with their stories. KSL/Deseret News is not helping to serve the public interest, when after 2 months you still can't get it right, confusing the public.
If the 4th District doesn't look like an "L" for liberty and looks more like a squashed peanut, you have the wrong map.
You often show my congressional map substitute 20, which was never voted on, (it came out too late) or even more often the map that passed the senate initially, but which the house never voted on. The final map, Substitute 19 passed both houses by 2/3 vote with both republicans and democrats voting for and against it.
You want the "Enrolled" congressional map version.
To create some correct graphics,
Try the following links:
Most importantly
For anyone to find out what district they live in:
Have them go to the Lt. Governor's website at:
http://elections.utah.gov/map/district-maps
It also has some very cool .pdf maps. If they aren't too light, I would suggest them.
There are also maps at:
http://www.redistrictutah.com/bills-passed-maps/legislative-enrolled-maps
including:
http://www.redistrictutah.com/maps/sb3002enrolled
http://www.redistrictutah.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Congress_-_SB3002_ENROLLED.kmz
If you use Google Earth, the KMZ file below it (and the other maps) works fine, allowing anyone to zoom up to their house by typing in their address.
The LT. Governor's site works very well, even if it is a little less forgiving on the address. The Lt. Governor's site will tell someone all 4 voting districts they live in, Congressional, State House, State Senate, and State School Board. While it doesn't have the new precinct boundaries yet, it is pretty amazing.
Again, its link is at:
http://elections.utah.gov/map/district-maps
If you don't like any of them, you are welcome to use any of the maps I posted on my blog, with some at:
http://www.fredcox4utah.blogspot.com/2011/11/some-newer-11x17-redistricting-maps.html
Including one .pdf map that shows how the 4th district cuts through West Valley City.
I have attached some numbers generated by the public redistricting website that show the 4th district has 85% of its population from Salt Lake County based on the 2010 Census. (OK, it has the population breakout but you can create the percentages). 38% of the 2nd District's population is from Salt Lake County and 26% of the population of the 3rd District is from Salt Lake County.
http://www.fredcox4utah.com/SB3002EnrolledStats.pdf
You will notice that Juab and Sanpete counties are split between the 2nd and 4th, as well as Utah and Salt Lake Counties. The Deseret News recently incorrectly stated that Juab and Sanpete were all in the 4th.
Fred C. Cox, West Valley City, UT

Monday, October 3, 2011

Redistricting has Been Kind to Democrats...So Far

Redistricting has Been Kind to Democrats...So Far

Copy of now archived article from 9/16/11 at:
http://www.utahpolicy.com/featured_article/redistricting-has-been-kind-democratsso-far

By Bob Bernick, UtahPolicy.com Contributing Editor

If you had shown me last spring the redistricting maps of the Utah House and Senate unanimously adopted this week by the Legislature’s Redistricting Committee, I would have been more than a little surprised.

Why?

Because the majority Republicans did not treat the minority Democrats too badly.

In fact, depending on possible election outcomes in 2012 (assuming these maps are ultimately approved by the Legislature in an early October special session), Democrats could come out OK in the redistricting process.

And that is exactly why I’m thinking these maps won’t be the final boundaries for the 75-member House and 29-member Senate for the next 10 years.

The Senate map has a better chance of passage than does the House map, I admit.

That’s because the Senate redistricting combines no GOP incumbent senators.

Yes, it’s ugly boundaries for Tooele County.

But instead of the having the county split into four Senate districts, as is now the case, it would be split into two.

Still, it’s unlikely a Tooele candidate could win a Senate seat – the county has about one-third of the population base for both of the proposed districts, thus making it unlikely a county politician could win or hold one of the new seats.

And, yes, the map is draw to protect Senate Majority Assistant Whip Pete Knudson, R-Brigham City. But the map is also drawn to protect other GOP incumbents, as well.

Two Democrats are drawn into the same district – Senate Minority Leader Ross Romero, D-Salt Lake, and former minority leader Pat Jones, D-Holladay.

But, to be fair, the Salt Lake City/east side Salt Lake County Senate seats held by Democrats didn’t grow in population over the last 10 years as fast as other parts of the county.

So it is only right that two Democrats be put together.

And Romero is running for Salt Lake County mayor next year, so Democrats won’t see a battle of two incumbents.

The House is a very different matter.

Republicans on the Redistricting Committee – which includes Speaker Becky Lockhart, R-Provo – approved a plan that put 10 incumbents into five combined districts.

Three Democrats and seven Republicans would face an incumbent if they run in 2012 and the map stands.

Two Democrats are combined: House Minority Leader David Litvack and newcomer Brian Doughty, both D-Salt Lake.

Rep. Janice Fisher, a Democrat, and Rep. Fred Cox, a Republican, both from West Valley City, are combined.

And in the most controversial suggestion, six GOP incumbents are combined: Rep. Brad Galvez, R-West Haven, and Rep. Jeremy Peterson, R-Ogden; Reps. Todd Kiser and LaVar Christensen, both R-Sandy; and Reps. Stephen Sandstrom, R-Orem, and Chris Herrod, R-Provo.

Now, there are 58 House Republicans. It’s tough to draw a map with such a super-majority that wouldn’t combine at least a few GOP incumbents.

It’s especially difficult if you compartmentalize various geographic areas of the state and say House districts won’t be allowed to significantly encroach into surrounding areas.

For example, since the numbers so perfectly match up, Salt Lake County was basically kept whole, as was Utah County. Northern Utah fit well together, so did Washington and Iron counties.

But politically speaking, Utah County is really a tough sell as drawn today.

First off, the county is all Republican – no Democratic House members at all. So you can’t combine two Democrats in Utah County.

Secondly, while Lockhart may have voted for the map in committee, her caucus stand may be different. How does she tell her Utah County colleagues – most if not all of whom supported her in the speaker’s race where she won by one vote – that two arch-conservatives must be combined when, because of growth in parts of the county, there will be three open House seats created?

Why can’t the Utah County map be drawn that would give all incumbents their own districts and have only two open new seats?

Trust me, Rep. Ken Sumsion, R-American Fork, the House chair of the committee, has tried time and again to draw a Utah County map that makes some sense and doesn’t combine any incumbents.

Sumsion said that in the map approved last week “one of my best friends” in the House is combined with “another friend” – and Sumsion is not happy about it at all.

But that’s just the way the numbers and population shifts make sense, he said.

Members of the 58-strong House GOP caucus may define “makes sense” very differently.

Still, when there is political blood in the water, it can become every man for himself.

And to draw lines that protect Sandstrom and Herrod could mean that other incumbents end up in a district with mostly new constituents – and the loss of the geographic power base that put them in office.

What good does it do Utah County incumbent House members to save Sandstrom and/or Herrod if they, in turn, are challenged by a LDS bishop, city mayor or councilman or business leader from their new area who can knock them out in the GOP county convention or primary?

Wheels within wheels, hard choices all around.

You can see the new Senate and House redistricting maps at: www.redistrictutah.com.

Take a look. You may not know where your current incumbent lives (hey, you may not know who your current incumbent is).

But take a bird’s eye view. Do the new maps make sense to you?

If so – and they make sense to me – you should let your representative and senator know that you like what your see (or don’t).

Personally, I think the majority Republicans have done pretty well by the minority Democrats – given the population shifts and reality of the numbers.

Now we’ll see if the House and Senate GOP caucuses will go along with the maps proposed by the Redistricting Committee (this comment assumes that significant boundary changes aren’t made before the caucuses get a shot at them).

Remember, GOP House and Senate leaders want the redistricting maps to receive overwhelming support in the Legislature come October.

And if they have to draw more lines – and hurt some more Democrats -- to get that, well, don’t be surprised by that outcome, either.